Kamenrider Baron VS Satsuki Kiryuin (Kamenrider VS Kill la Kill)

 

Satsuki Kiryuin, The Iron-Fisted Honnoji Student Council President.

 

Kaito Kumon, Lear of team Baron, and Kamen rider Baron.

 

The pursuit of power is innate, but in order to protect the weak, they are willing to obtain forbidden powers, join the evil side just to defeat them, and work together with the protagonist. These two dominant captains will prove themselves. So, will Baron take the stage, or will Satsuki break the banana?

Before we begin…

 Satsuki has her anime, I will calculate some IF stuff, but the focus will not stop here.Because the entire story of IF is a dream, although it brings some expansion, it will not be counted in the actual performance.

For Kaito, he has his TV, non-crossover movies (I will explain why I don't use Crossover later in the Verdict); in terms of scaling, it will involve Gaim's novels, but it won't stay for too long.

 

Background

Satsuki

Satsuki was born into the Kiryuin family, a powerful family that has controlled a huge business empire for generations. Her mother Ragyo is the head of the Kiryuin Group and a ruthless dictator. Satsuki's father, Kiryuin Soichiro, is a genius scientist. However, Satsuki's childhood life was not the luxury and care common in ordinary wealthy families, but full of experiments, conspiracies and pain.

 

When she was a child, Satsuki was Ragyo's first experimental subject. Ragyo tried to combine her with an alien parasite, the life fiber, through the life fiber fusion experiment, but failed because Satsuki was too old. Satsuki became a "useless thing" in her mother's eyes, but she also escaped a more tragic fate. Soon after, Ragyo used his second child, Satsuki's sister, Ryuko Matoi, as a new experimental subject. However, Ryuko Matoi was considered a "failure" and was abandoned by Ragyo without emotion. After realizing Ragyo's ambition and cruel nature, Soichiro secretly forged Ryuko Matoi's death and raised her with Satsuki.

 

Under the influence of her father, Satsuki was instilled with vigilance against her mother and life fibers from an early age. Although she still had to grow up under Ragyo's strict control, Satsuki always kept in mind the truth about life fibers, family responsibilities, and future goals of resistance taught by her father. At the age of five, Soichiro left her and her family, trying to fight against her mother and life fibers through his own plan, but eventually died. Soichiro's departure made Satsuki completely understand that the burden of resisting her mother can only be borne by her alone.

 

As she grew older, Satsuki showed extraordinary wisdom, strong willpower, and leadership. She secretly began to build her own forces, first forming an alliance with her childhood friend Naruto Tono, and recruiting talented students by traveling through high schools in Japan: she rescued the trapped Azusa Azusa and recruited her by testing his loyalty and courage; she persuaded the hacker genius dog Muta Takara to use his technology for future plans; finally, Satsuki established a connection with Saruto Sangen, demonstrated her strength by defeating him, and won his loyalty. These four became her "Elite Four Heavenly Kings" and together with Satsuki, they created the Instinct Academy, a unique school system centered on force and strength.

 

The Instinct Academy is an ordinary educational institution on the surface, but in fact it is a base established by Satsuki to rebel against her mother and the Life Fiber. She strengthened the students' abilities by issuing Goku uniforms, while strictly controlling the use of power to maintain order and accumulate resources and forces for resistance. She ruled the academy and the surrounding community with an iron fist, showing strong deterrence and leadership. However, her rule was challenged by the transfer student Matori Ryuko. This avenger who carried the death of his father was not only powerful, but also inadvertently awakened Satsuki's buried family ties and sense of responsibility.

 

As Matori Ryuko gradually revealed the truth, Satsuki realized that her sister was not really "failed", but was part of her mother's lie. Finally, at the Cultural and Sports Festival, Satsuki launched her own rebellion plan, but was unfortunately defeated by Ragyo, and was imprisoned and tortured. However, Satsuki did not give up, and after all kinds of hardships, she eventually escaped from imprisonment and joined forces with Matori Ryuko to fight against their mother.

 

In the final battle, Satsuki and her sister teamed up to defeat Ragyo and the Life Fiber and liberate the world. After the battle, Satsuki returned the leadership to Matoi Ryuko and began to pursue an ordinary life. She entered Rinone High School with her sister, ended her fighting past, and regained her family and identity as an ordinary girl.

 

Kaito

Kaito Kumon was born in a once wealthy family, but due to the bankruptcy of the family business, he has experienced all the hardships of human nature since he was a child. Childhood poverty and social injustice planted in his heart a desire for power and anger against a world where the jungle prevails. He is determined to become strong and no longer submit to any rules or class system.

 

In adolescence, Kaito became the leader of the dance group "Baron", using street dance competitions as a symbol of resistance to social oppression. He attracted a group of like-minded followers and infected them with his belief that only the strong can change the world. However, Kaito's faith is tested when an invasion from another world - the Heim Underworld Forest - appears in Sazawa City. He obtained the Sengoku Drive and Banana Lock Seed, became Kamen Rider Baron, and embarked on the road to compete with other knights for survival and power.

 

In conflicts with other knights (especially Kamen Rider Gaim), Kaito displays a cold and extreme personality. Not only does he view every fight as an opportunity to prove his worth, he also attempts to illustrate his belief that the weak are destined to be eliminated by defeating his opponents. However, as the story develops, Kaido gradually realizes that the crisis in Zawame City comes not only from the battle between knights, but also from the invasion of Heim's underworld forest and the conspiracy affiliated with the Yggdrasil company.

 

Kaito's desire for power eventually led him to accept the power of the Heim Underworld Forest. He is gradually infected by the invading plants and gains greater strength. However, this power also changes his body and mind. He eventually became the ruler of the underworld of Helm - a truly powerful man, but also considered a monster by his followers.

 

At the end of the story, Kaito and Kuzuba Kota engage in the final battle. He used his life to prove his beliefs. Even if he was regarded as a villain by the world, he always pursued the "way of the strong" in his heart. His sacrifice became an interpretation of freedom and strength and became part of the history of the city of Zawame.

 

At the end, Kota defeated him and took everything about Helm to another planet. Under a sacred tree, Kaito's soul lingered in the world, observing everything, until Mai told him that even if humans make mistakes, they can turn over a new leaf and start over. Kaito smiled slightly, as if he had finally let go of something, and his soul flew away. In the days to come, he will come back to life, or become an AI, or appear in the spiritual world, but no matter what, it seems that he has recognized Kota.

Skill & Experience

Satsuki

Satsuki has always been one of the strongest fighters in her verse, able to stand up to a vast array of opponents, even an alien with thousands of years of experience. She has practiced swordsmanship since she was a child, and is a master of formidable tactics, making plans in battle, and planning long-range chess games to take down her mother.

Kaito

After becoming Kamen Rider Baron, Kaito experienced countless battles with other knights. These battles not only allowed him to master how to deal with opponents of various abilities, but also made him more sophisticated in combat strategy. He can not only quickly adapt to the enemy's fighting style, but also find the opponent's weaknesses in a short time to exploit them.

After the invasion of the Helm Underworld Forest, Kaito fought against the invaders many times. He learned how to face different kinds of enemies in battle, especially those monsters with huge power but clumsy movements. This gave him rich practical experience in facing large, high-threat enemies.

Kaito is good at close combat. His fighting style focuses on the combination of strength and speed, and he often uses highly repressive attacks in battle, using a series of swift movements to quickly force the opponent to defend or even lose balance.

Whether it is complex terrain or limited space, he can use the environment to his advantage to restrain his opponent. For example, he will use the wall to perform a roundhouse attack, or use the terrain difference to quickly transfer, thus catching the enemy off guard.

Equipment

Satsuki

Junketsu

Junketsu is a uniform designed by the Kiryuin family, made entirely of Life Fiber and tailor-made for Satsuki; although it sucks the blood of its host and is claimed to be extremely difficult to control, Satsuki tames it with her own will.

It has the ability to transform into a drill, grappling hook, etc., providing multiple forms to adapt to different combat environments.

Compared to ordinary uniforms, Junketsu has multiple Banshi lines, making it more difficult to break than ordinary uniforms (which only have one).

Bakuzan

Satsuki's sword has a strong cutting ability, which is no less powerful than Ryuko's scissors. It can cut through any object including Life fiber.

Kaito

Lock Seed

 

As an armored rider, Kaito possesses a large number of Lock Seeds, each of which provides him with different armor and weapons, and the armor is mentioned in the form. The weapons provided by Lock Seed to Kaito include:

Banana Spear

A sturdy and powerful spear that can convert strength into a beam of light shaped like a banana 

 

Watermelon Breaker

After putting on watermelon armor, use a huge body to wield a giant spear for stabbing

 

Mango Punisher

 After putting on mango armor, smash the opponent with a huge hammer

 

 

Sonic Arrow

Using Lemon Lock seed and Genesis Driver, Kaito can use bows and arrows for charging and single shot attacks, as well as engage in close combat with the upper blade.

 

 

Sword Bringer and Apple Reflector

After using Apple Armor, Kaito can launch attacks with shields, and both weapons can freely control the cracks in the underworld of Heim, summoning plants.

 

Globalism

A long sword used in overlord form, Broken in the battle with Kota, he himself was also killed by the broken sword.

 

Forms

Satsuki

Junketsu Senpū

By turning her junketsu into some kind of rocket thruster, she can increase her speed.

Junketsu Senpū Zankan

In this form, she can extend blades from around her body, spinning herself into a chainsaw to attack her opponent.

Junketsu Shinzui

In IF, Satsuki unlocks Junketsu's ultimate form, allowing it to rival Ryuko's power and even defeat the original Life Fiber.Of course, I don’t want to discuss too much here.

Kaito

 

Banana Arms

Kaito's basic form, using banana spear to attack, and the curved armor can protect him from injury. Banana Spear can generate banana-shaped light and perform a stretch attack.

 

Mango Arms

 

A derivative of Banana Armor, swinging a heavy hammer to hit the opponent

 

Suika Arms

One of the most powerful weapons used by armored riders in the early stages. Its huge size allows it to adapt to a variety of battles and can even roll over opponents.

 

Lemon energy Arms

 

This is a form created using a belt developed by Rema. It is one of Kaito's strongest forms when used in Rider.

Overlord Baron

 

Kaito's strongest form. After eating the forbidden fruit, he showed great willpower and overcame the genetic mutation to transform into one of the Overlords, which gave him immense power and made him one of the strongest villains in Gaim.

Abilities

Satsuki

 

Shockwave Generation

 

Satsuki can generate a powerful aura that can blow away her enemies, and she can also generate shockwaves with great force when swinging her sword.

 

 

Kaito

 

Hellheim Cracks Control

 

One of Overload's powers is that he can manipulate the entrance to Helheim at will, including opening portal, sending a large number of plants into the battlefield to bind the opponent, or summoning an army of Inves to fight for him, or send opponent into the forest.Users like Kota can use Crack to teleport Inves to another planet in the end of the universe.

 

Shockwave

 

Kaito can use shockwaves in both his Rider and Overload modes to extend his range. In his Overload mode, his power is greatly enhanced, and he can split a giant World Tree and turn an entire city into ruins.

 

Overlord Physiology

 

Overlord is a high-level species in Inves, which not only possesses extraordinary combat power, but also does not lose thinking and language abilities like their low-level individuals. They have armored exoskeletons that are exceptionally tough and can quickly heal from wounds that are not fatal. They can transform into gas and move quickly to avoid attacks, as well as have the ability to manipulate space entrances.

 

Resistance

Satsuki

 

Mind Control Resistance

 Kamui, made of life fibers, can control people's minds, but Satsuki overcomes this with her willpower.

Heat Resistance

Survived high-temperature flames many times and can catch a burning weapon in her hand.

 

Kaito

 

Infection conversion resistance

 

Any organism that eats the fruit of Heim will undergo a genetic mutation and be transformed into Inves, but Kaito used his strong willpower to overcome the infection and still maintain self-awareness when becoming Overlord.

 

Corruption Resistance

 

His strong willpower helped him resist ideological corruption and brainwashing. Even though he was resurrected as an artificial intelligence by Megahex, he did not obey this AI, but fought with his own will.

Feats

Satsuki

Fights Ryuko multiple times, their battles destroy numerous buildings and create horrific shockwaves, she survives such attacks multiple times.

 

The aftermath of her battle with Ryuko in Based form creates a huge crater (1.936+17e watt)

 

Ryuko's berserk form creates a huge column of fire, which she survives (1.558+22e watt)

 

Even though it can't match her strongest form, Ryuko still has several feats, including:

 

Flying into space (Mach 22 to 500)

 

Slicing multiple tennis balls

 

Surviving explosions that destroyed stadiums

 

Her minions:

 

Throwing a student, spinning around the arena multiple times at thousands of Machs

 

The four of them can create a massive explosion together

 

Fights Ragyo with Ryuko, who can cover the entire Earth with Life Fiber for a short period of time (approximately 200,000m/s)

Kaito

 

Cut through the huge World Tree building

 

Can dodge supersonic arrows

 

His banana spear can pierce through stone pillars, and the huge energy beam can sweep away multiple Inves flying dozens of meters in the air

 

Used the shock wave to blow away Kota in Kiwami Arms form, and fought him to the death.

 

Can kick over and destroy Suika Arms weighing several tons.

 

The rosyuo which was equal to Kachidoki Arms stopped the nuclear weapons coming to Zawame city and Kaito completely destroyed Kachidoki.

 

Baron and ProtoBaron are homologous riders, and ProtoBaron can survive in the giant weapon that destroyed the entire Japan（1.26e+22 watts）.

 

Even though Kota had not yet become a god, he could still be demoted from some of his miscellaneous performances(debatable):

He and Mai used seven months to turn a planet into a small planet full of oceans(2.17+30e Watt).

 

In the movie, he and Drive used Based form to destroy Megahex's home planet, and the chain reaction (2.67+12e watt) of core destruction detonated the entire small planet. They survived the explosion.

 

As a god, he can create a small sun and use it as lighting for the planet(This is largely based on what one of the producers says, but it's hard to calculate because the time frame is unknown. Let's assume he created the little sun and reshaped the planet in the same 7 months, and using the smallest star J0555-57Ab, which is only 3 or 4 times more massive than Jupiter, that gives a figure of 1.449515e+29 watts).

 

Defeated Kudo, and it is said that he "connects the three thousand worlds as a connection point like a grain of salt melts into the sea" (See in before the Verdict).

 

With the help of other Buujin Riders providing power, he defeated Buujin Gaim in Based form with Wizard, and considering that he has greatly strengthened since then, it makes sense to measure him by this period. Buujin Gaim once cut himself in half, and it was a tree over several dozen meters tall.Kaito also contributed part of the effort.

 

Weaknesses

Satsuki

Prolonged battles while wearing Junketsu will drain Satsuki's blood, and given enough time, she may become exhausted or even collapse from blood loss. Likewise, while Kamui has more than one Banshi thread to keep her attacking, if they are all severed, the Junketsu will collapse, leaving Satsuki vulnerable.

Kaito

 

Kaito's pursuit of power has brought him excessive confidence, which has also led to his frequent defeats in unexpected situations.

 

 

Before the Verdict……

Crossover between Kamen Rider

 

Researching Crossover has always been a headache for me. When I first entered the community, I also learned that people would compare the different TV series Kamen Riders through the Crossover Movie, but I didn't expand their ideas through these things. Simple - a lot of inconsistencies.

For the sake of the show, Toei will of course promote new riders by making them stronger than the old ones when they debut, and being able to use the base form to keep up with the enemies they can only defeat with their stronger forms. But according to this logic, since each generation of Kamen Rider will be stronger than the previous one, why do they have the old riders return to defeat more powerful enemies than them? Evidence? A lot, W's Feat throughout the TV series never went beyond the city level, and was eclipsed by most riders, but they single-handedly defeated Shadow Moon, who made most riders struggle; Revice struggled against Geff, who was a planetary threat at best, but was able to keep up with Cross Saber in the movie, and the best Reiwa Rider created an entire universe with his power. In short, Crossover is full of inconsistencies created for the sake of advertising, and the logic of scaling them to each other is like Luffy scale to Goku.

Likewise, some forms allow them to use the powers of other riders, but only in crossover works, for the simple reason that they cannot be allowed to take over the main role, and when they are unwilling to use these things in a life-or-death situation, they are obviously not canon. Except for two special cases: Zi-O and Decade, they are too special to be counted.

That being said, some of their performances in the movie, such as surviving the explosion, can be used.

 

5D Gaim?

When I heard someone make such a statement, I frowned because it was far from what I knew, and to prove my idea, I bought the original book.

 

 

Then, When I finished reading the whole book, I found that it was not the case at all.

First of all, let's make it clear that there are no other feats in the entire book. All of them come from one character - Kamen Rider Saver, Kugai Kudo. He claims that he has transcended the "Three Thousand Worlds", transcended time and space, and simply obtained 5D using the rules of VSBW... right?

People who read that thread might say, Oh? Didn't he create his own dreamland? This is clearly a universe...

 

It would be nice if it were true.

 

 

 

In fact,If you are too lazy to read so much, then listen to my summary - it clearly states that Kudo has no concept of creation and no future.He has not transcended life and death. The original text directly denies this statement. Those who show you the previous chapter do not ask you to read the next page.

Then, what is the size of this world? After Kudo's death, the whole world began to collapse, and this world was declared to be...

 

The Collapse of the Zawame City of Death, aka City Size Pocket dimension. Even if the 'Three Thousand Worlds' were a real universe, Kudo had no reason to expand it, as it was described as' a connecting point like salt melting into the sea'.Nothing can be proven.

If you still don't give up and say that Kudo absorbed the World Tree and gained power beyond the three thousand worlds, making him immortal beyond time and space, and Gaim defeated him, so Gaim will also upgrade, then...Look at the above again. If you are still too lazy, let me summarize.

Kudo has experienced too many deaths and his consciousness has collapsed. He doesn't need Kota to do anything. He is already on the verge of death because of the collapse.

So, let me summarize, Kudo has no creative ability, the pocket dimension born from the power of the world tree is far from the scale of the universe, his immortality is not even true immortality, Gaim did not contribute to his death. The whole logic of scaling, from the beginning, does not hold.

Those who want to brag about the characters will not let you watch the whole thing, nor will they let you touch their materials. Only when you really study it yourself can you really understand that some things that are actually shallow are rumors.

 

Can Kaito be scaled to the Man of Beginning?

 

We all know that the final battle between Kaito and Kota is the highlight of Gaim TV, but there is a problem. Kota really became the Man of the Beginning after killing Kaito. He became a god after the victory and obtaining the golden fruit.

But there is a small detail, Kiwami arms is a small piece of the power of the forbidden fruit, which can let him downgrade from it. But not too much, it depends on you.

Summary

Satsuki

At least a hundred to a thousand times faster +

Has a more stable form +

Comparable will =

Not much difference in strength at the end of stable expansion =

Lacks a little experience compared to Kaito, because she is a little younger-

Low arsenal-

Low ability diversity-

If using Man of the Beginning scaling, she will be much weaker, but this is unstable at best-

 

Kaito

More ample arsenal +

If you give him some of Kota's performance, he can be stronger, but it is limited at best +

Crack will bring unexpected changes to the battlefield and make up for some of the speed disadvantage +

There are a large number of Inves troops to control +

Comparable will =

Not much difference in strength at the end of stable expansion =

Very slow compared to the opponent-

The strength of each form is very different. If he starts the battle with Based form, he will basically be One Shot-

 

Verdict

Power

 

Stats are a bit complicated, in terms of speed, Satsuki is of course ahead of the rest with multiple direct travel and reaction speed, Kaito can only get dodge arrows at best, making him a little faster than the speed of sound, but Satsuki can match multiple opponents who can fight at tens, hundreds, or even thousands of Mach, and she can certainly completely overwhelm Kaito in this aspect.

In terms of power, Baron's direct performance can be compared to another knight from a parallel world, protoBaron, who can withstand the nuclear weapons that destroyed Japan, and there are stronger characters than Kachidoki who can intercept the nuclear missiles that are about to destroy the city of Zawame, making him 1.66e22 watt, while what Satsuki can get in her animation is from Ryuko and her own direct feats, which are also in the same range at most.

But it is worth mentioning that Kaito as Overlord Baron fights Kota before he became a god, who has a little power of the forbidden fruit, which makes him look like he can match Kota's power after becoming a god, but this matter is really too subtle. The power of the forbidden fruit is not actually all divine power. Kota becoming the Man of Beginning requires Mai's interference in the timeline. Under multiple factors, the forbidden fruit cannot be the true source of divine power. It is too strange for Kaito to expand to these feats.

Under multiple factors, you can say Kaito gains power, but not by much, while Satsuki gains speed by a huge margin.

 

Ability

 

Speaking of abilities, Satsuki doesn't have much to show here, she has several forms and can create huge shockwaves, but Kaito can do that too, and he has a lot more to throw at Satsuki, including Overload's plants control, using Crack to change the battlefield, or just plain using Inves' army to overwhelm her. And Satsuki really doesn't have much to do here. The ability advantage goes to Kaito

 

Third factor

 

I'll just mention it here. Although Kaito is older, he has only been an armored rider for a short time. Satsuki, on the other hand, has been training hard since she was a child and can keep up with her opponent who has much more experience than her. In terms of mentality, Kaito was quickly corrupted by power and became obsessed with power, but Satsuki swallowed her anger and planned her rebellion for many years. Obviously, this advantage belongs to Satsuki.

 

This fight is a bit more involved, with Kaito having the experience advantage, being able to create a lot of Inves, and having a variety of abilities that Satsuki didn't expect, while Satsuki has more consistent strength and great speed, as well as greater skill.

Expanding Kaito to The Man of Beginning is lame at best, his best measure being equal to Satsuki means that he doesn't have many opportunities to land a single blow when Satsuki uses her huge speed advantage to blitz him.

It certainly presents a huge challenge for Satsuki when Kaito summons his army and uses Crack to change the battlefield, but considering the Inves are far weaker than Kaito, Satsuki can probably just wipe them all out with a single swing of his sword. What about using plant bindings and throwing Satsuki to Hellheim? It doesn't really help the fight at all, teleporting creatures light years away is a uniquely God Kota feat, Kaito has no evidence of being able to teleport that far with Crack, and he's too slow, so even if he wanted to teleport Satsuki to a vacuum or a planet without oxygen to kill her with the lack of oxygen, he can't do it.

In conclusion, Overlord Baron, who seeks power, definitely caused trouble for the student council president of Honnoji Academy, but Satsuki used her better swordsmanship and fighting skills, as well as Junketsu's superior speed, to bring victory to her academy.

The winner is Satsuki Kiryuin.